Форум "ВТОРАЯ МИРОВАЯ ВОЙНА 1939-1945 гг."

yugumo пишет:

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Собственно говоря возникли вопросы о целесообразности сего девайса. Даже без послезнания об эффективности диверсионных операций времен ВМВ, в том числе и захват сего творения. Мнится мне, что та же железнодорожная батарея, имея минус по защищенности, тактически более гибкая. А парочка плавучих бронированных самоходных батарей/мониторов типа англицких выгоднее по соотношению стоимость/эффективность будет

Кхм... стесняюсь спросить - а зачем нам на Филиппинах тактически гибкие ж/д батареи или МН, если по всем планам армия должна оборонять на суше лишь Лусон (и то в районе Манилы), а с моря - вход в Манильскую бухту. Именно поэтому в дополнение к FORT MILLS, FORT HUGHES, FORT WINT и FORT FRANK построили "бетонный ЛК", максимально защищённый от огня орудий того времени и перекрывающий промежуток между "Фрэнком" и "Хьюзом".
Данную концепцию проверила война:

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17 March 1942, Fort Drum and Fort Frank underwent a very heavy bombardment from Japanese 240-mm howitzers emplaced on the Cavite shore. This action continued for approximately two weeks. These were the first 240-mm weapons to be used against harbor defenses.
At least six 240-mm howitzers were employed in this bombardment. They fired two gun salvos and from the location of the hits, it was apparent that the artillery was well dispersed in the mountains back of the Cavite shoreline. The fire was coming from three widely separated positions. Counter-battery fire was brought to bear from time to time by all the fortified islands.
Fort Frank which was only 4,200 yards from Fort Drum, suffered serious material damages during bombardment. Almost all of her guns were out of action for a considerable period of time and some of them were out of action permanently. The principle targets on Fort Drum were the two 14-inch turrets and the casemate Battery Roberts. Battery Roberts was temporarily out of commission and the No. 1, or upper gun, was knocked out permanently by hits on tube. The 14-inch turrets, despite many hits on the side, rear, top, remained in action.

Действия авиации (пикировщков и левелов) тоже оказались безрезультатными - даже несмотря на вывод из строя 3" зениток и 2-х из шести .5" ЗПУ:

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After the 3-inch antiaircraft guns on Fort Drum and Fort Frank were destroyed, the enemy was able to make any unmolested high bombardment attacks on Fort Drum from whatever altitude they chose. The bombing was extremely inaccurate. Only two out of the hundreds of bombs dropped by the high bombers struck Fort Drum, and the results were of no consequences. One of these missiles landed on the steping face of the forward turret, just above one of the 14-inch guns. It glanced, hit the 14-inch gun and detonated, but caused absolutely no damage.

Короче говоря, принеся защищённость в ущерб тактической гибкости американцы добились того, что Fort Drum оставался боеспособным вплоть до последнего дня.

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At dawn, 6 May 1942, observers at Corregidor spotted large concentrations of enemy troops in assembly areas just north of Cabcaben. The coordinates of these enemy positions were plotted and Drum was ordered to fire. It will be remembered that the normal maximum range was 19,200 yards, while this target was well over 20,000 yards. Fire was opened and the target was well within range. The fort fired 4-gun salvos into this area expending over 100 rounds. The Fort was then ordered to take enemy barges in the north channel approaching Corregidor under fire.

Хотел бы я посмотреть на МН и ж/д батареи в этих условиях...